fluffes, a bunch of fluffes. I was thinking about the state of play vs how it was. Hey fluffes, you don't automatically set record nws every set. Also fluffes, you don't grow bigger than the server allows. You fluffes,fluff and moan about getting suicided. Fair nough, stop grabbing and defend your fluff. You cant defend 300k acres? Dont get 300k acres. I had to stop grabbing at 30k acres because if i went over it I WOULD BE GRABBED A fluff TON OF TIMES. Greedy, whiney fluffes is what is left in the game..you don't even deserve the responses of admins for your fluffy ass selves.

It's not pang or qzs responsibility to make a safe place for you to net with 0 worries. Stop being fluffes.

I ain't reading all this post, someone wanna send me some footnotes?

So long as I can have "drunken PooG", I'll be content :P

Oh you're right the last one is a Derrickism

How do you guys keep opening this thread anyway

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Bug:
Req got suicided on by trumpoz, flipped out and suicided on a bunch of PS players, and stepped away from the game. PS players then quit as well.

Camps seem to be divided into Req is a total bastard who deserves everything he gets, and "Magnus - I mean Requiem - DID NOTHING WRONNNNG!!!"

This is like the 11th time you have attached some opinion to me that I never exclaimed or is even the opposite of what I said.

I don't think it's completely one way or the other, really. Requiem railed against the issues with suiciders for who knows how long and ultimately became one.

This is like the 111th time you've gotten so upset over a 20 year old text based game

That is a very common occurence.

No, Im not upset over the game I am upset that your education has failed you so horribly. To allow an adult to remain as uneducated as you is a human rights violation and that makes me furious.

Derricidal ??

LMAO that might be the funniest fluff anybody has ever written on here. Thank god something decent has come of 50 suicider threads for once

:)

Still waiting for sof's apology from laf. And still waiting for u to show me where I was for those suiciding laf.

I have pang's ear, I needed a souvenir for my time on staff :)

Sorry what was his punishment? I thought he quit and I don’t think anything happened to his country

Yes

Added, see above.

Having to read the diarrhea coming from your keypad is plenty punishment, my friend.

I wonder how many people have "quit" this game more than once during the same time period

You'll know how to find my country next set

I believe they were referring to the fact he was dumped from staff

qz is the other one who reviews it -- only him and I are active in that project. Zarc has access but has been largely MIA unless we reach out to him.

Other stuff, like the UI project, is in a different repository

But as for feedback on the solution -> there's a thread on Announcements where I outlined what we're doing with some discussion I actioned. The code that does is just reflecting what I posted there.

Which thread specifically so I can go take a look

http://www.earthempires.com/...eturns-48061?t=1574215024

Well, i believe so..

In my opinion staff shouldn't even be publicly identifiable. There should be an alias account which admins/devs post from to remain anonymous (i.e. EE Developer Team) to reduce the perception of bias

that's a bit of a flip though, because it would also mean that a staff member actually COULD be biased, without being shown up for it /shrug

Requiem is the first suicider/in-game griefer who was ever punished for his actions in this game. Sadly I think he will be the last to get punished as well.


Complete and utter bullfluff.

I get that we're busy swearing at each other, but other players have been punished for suiciding before in the past. Players working together to target other players on solo servers have been deleted before. That's a rules violation. Not a common one but it happens.

I am not sure why you all think he was punished?
Where did that idea come from?
That Pang pulled him from the dev team?
If that punishment then you failed to read Primeval's statement.
And then you failed to read Requiem's statement.
Thus to top it up. Requiem had quit like a few days ago.
So yeah there was no punishment. And there was no need for punishment. Again see Prime's statement and Req's statement.

True.

The current situation is that a 5-minute per day country can screw over multiple countries. The balance is simply way off.

The changes to be implemented will make the sort of farming run done to LaF/PS a lot less effective and far more time intensive to replicate as it will require a much bigger land base to be able to even a fraction of the damage from.

Given it looks like grabbing gains will be related to built land and not total land it means that BR/CM kills of suiciders will negate their ability to restart and farm the fluff out of an alliance.

something happened to nukevil but i cant remember if it was for all the landkilling he was doing or something else

he killed maybe 200 countries via landkill at the start of sets which im sure led to a lot of people quitting which seems like a counter productive thing to do when your putting in effort to develop something

trump: given you caused this situation this set in suiciding req in the first place, you're hardly one to say squat tbh.

Except Im looking at the changes from the perspective of what people want to stop.

I didnt tell req to do anything by the way - it was his choice.

oh it's not your fault that he flipped out and suicided on friends of yours after you suicided on him?
nah, bullfluff mate. At least own your part in it, and apologise to your friends that you drove out of the game.

Ah the ole “but the bad man made me do it” defense...

That’s how “us greifers” are always vindicated.

Oh wait you were talking about req! ;)

this is totally untrue

i have never called req a total bastard. I don't have a problem with him suiciding me i got rekt. Was i sad? yes, will i get over it? yes.

I have been nothing but consistent and i challenge anyone to point out my hypocrisy anywhere. I laughed multiple times about how i had 0 defense and wasnt mad at requiem, which is consistent with my position on other threads.

My issue is with other people who take the position of "i should be able to run 0 defense, suiciders are cancer", but then in the same breath say "TRUMPOZ MADE REQUIEM DO IT, HES A GOOD GUY I SWEAR"

by this logic i should be able to suicide laf next set because requiem made me do it and everyone would be fine with it

which is total horsefluff logic

Only Derrick has said he somewhat understands Requiems reasoning tho. You blow it way out of proportion if you suggest that what Derrick said is the sentiment of everyone.

That said. You legit ran 0 turrets 0 spies 0 tanks 0 troops when you got hit... No lafer that got suicided in the past 2 years ran that at this stage of the game or even weeks before it. You have been one of the ones who claimed we are underdefended and therefore victim blamed us - and yet as the record shows we are the most defended netting alliance in general and we are still targeted.
I think everyone, and certainly YOU, should stop using low defences as an arguement for getting hit. Its been established time and time again that no one can defend themselves against someone who wants to wreak your set, and its been shown time and time again that if you try you will not be in a position to do anything about the top ranks even if everyone leaves you alone.

The reason you got hit and the reason I got hit was because someone wanted to wreak our resets, period. This might not be a problem in itself but if you add to that the fact that both Trumpoz and Requiem ruined more than just one set, in fact about half a dozen each, in a few minutes. Think about that; 2 months of this hobby ruined for half a dozen players in ~15 minutes. That people quit over it is just a symptom of this imbalance.

fair statement.. i think you've been consistent on your position as well.

the part i disagree with you is i don't know where you draw the line and how you define greifing. Ugo has danced around it on this thread with some top tier satire/fluffpost.

If i run a 100k high effort high warfare techer designed to do damage and pay it forward next set, is that still greifing? even though it objectively takes "skill"?

you are right the reason i got hit was not because i had 0 defense. it was because someone wanted to ruin my set. but the difference is i will get over it because the game restarts in a couple weeks. i've been suicided two sets in a row, maybe my perspective will change if it continues who knows.

unlike alot of people here i am opened to have my mind changed, but im not about to change my opinion over vague statements and poorly defined concepts of what constitutes greifing, suiciding, etc

A skilled griefer is still a griefer. I dont see what is so difficult about the definition - in fact this is a well established term in the gaming world. If your purpose is to ruin other peoples game experience you are a griefer. Thats probably not an issue in itself.

The fact that it is so easy in this game to not just ruin one players experience but half a dozen or even a dozen players experience and that some people play only to grief a certain group (what other games like WoW penalizes as harassment) for years on end.

So make it less powerful by an order of magnitude or so and penalize the worst offenders

this is the other part that is vague to me.

from the perspective of some people, not being able to landgrab a 400k acre country is ruining their experience as well.

how do we define and quantify something as subjective as "ruining a players experience" is where i take exception to vague concepts and statements like this.

also this argument of "I just want to be able to netgain" so if i dont i am allowed to suicide and get a pass is just nonsense

theres like 10 other servers where you can netgain. i dont believe anybody is entitled to say What ALLIANCE server should or should not be and i havent seen a compelling argument yet

edit: not saying you are makign this argument gerd

I propose an all X PvP server where you can only hug them trees, it'll create that "safe space" people that don't want or have time to war, or just want to go all X.

10 other servers?

Alliance
Primary
Tourny
Team
FFA
Express

Where are you getting the other servers at?

Marshal, do not comment with test servers they do not count <3

Requiem is a good guy, he just got pushed over the edge and struck back where he could. Well PS, I guess it's only funny when it happens to other netgainers, huh? Maybe being buddies with a griefer isn't the best idea?

I think he counts AI, Alpha and AlphaFFA lol. I guess one could argue that the AI server is a real server since it doesnt have the magic market.

Name a clan that does not have griefer friends and I'll call you a liar

That is stupid, oh yeah.

Welcome back Chevs

I said there’s “like” 10 servers

Only responding to that part of my post just shows you have no argument or have no interest in an honest discussion with people who have different opinions than yours