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BobbyATA Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2013, 11:43:53

Originally posted by Rob:
Is it just me or is there a lack of good grabbing targets this set?


I dunno, IMO target selection is much better then last set.

oldman Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2013, 13:03:45

there're alot more people who attack the top40 countries this set compared to the last few sets. So to them, the target selection is definitely better since we have more fat countries this set due to the lower price in EVERYTHING =)

BobbyATA Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2013, 13:22:46

I think it could be that nonindy countries got to higher NW faster this set then last b/c of the market. Which is good for them overall, but sometimes humanitarians you out of the range of some excellent targets.

But for Serp and I, for example, who have played C/I last set as well, the targets actually seem better relative to last set.

Just a theory...

PaceBooM Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2013, 15:33:44

Originally posted by Rob:
Is it just me or is there a lack of good grabbing targets this set?


I know this has been discussed before, but I think that's where block exploring during the beginning of the set actually pays off. I think this (right now) gives me more targets to grab.

AndrewMose Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2013, 15:35:58

The Jet AND Turret market was empty when I sold this morning. I need the rest of you large Indy's to sell at a reasonable price in the next 24 hours so that I don't get stuck. I don't consider $99 to be reasonable.

h2orich Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2013, 16:31:47

Does anyone see this thread as 4 pages only on the main page where there is actually 5? I think this has been an on-going bug for ages.

LATC Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2013, 18:44:43

Originally posted by h2orich:
Does anyone see this thread as 4 pages only on the main page where there is actually 5? I think this has been an on-going bug for ages.


Yup, happens to me too.
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Magellaan Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2013, 19:00:38

The thing limiting growth for me right now are low mil prices. I have no problem finding good targets at all, although they do seem to have decent defense.
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Xinhuan Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2013, 19:53:32

Originally posted by Magellaan:
The thing limiting growth for me right now are low mil prices. I have no problem finding good targets at all, although they do seem to have decent defense.


Well duh, turrets are so cheap its easy to get defense (and offense).

Serpentor Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2013, 20:35:18

There seems to be lots of really good targets that were at our 1/4 range up until now. I think the targets are going to get a little harder to crack in the next few days ATA. Just judging by the ops I've done on countries just getting into our range.
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crest23 Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2013, 21:58:06

I saw you spy me. I've always wondered why most people that hit you DH. I would like to find out why with my retal. I haven't failed any this set yet, and I'm in retal mode now.
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Apr 3rd 2013, 0:00:02

You gonna retal a spy op?
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Serpentor Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2013, 0:39:41

Well there's no way I'm risking hitting a country with your jets (if you are who I think you are). Although I'm not the Indy that hit you today, so lets see that Retal!!!
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AndrewMose Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2013, 2:34:16

the espionage has already started. This sucks. I wouldn't be surprised if I have more spies than all but 2 or 3 countries, but I still lost quite a bit of tech today. In past sets I haven't been hit as hard as others.

Is anybody else getting retalled with 30 espionage ops?

oldman Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2013, 4:11:26

Originally posted by AndrewMose:
the espionage has already started. This sucks. I wouldn't be surprised if I have more spies than all but 2 or 3 countries, but I still lost quite a bit of tech today. In past sets I haven't been hit as hard as others.

Is anybody else getting retalled with 30 espionage ops?


tell him or her that tech is dirt cheap, there's no incentive to steal tech.

BobbyATA Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2013, 5:38:28

Originally posted by Serpentor:
There seems to be lots of really good targets that were at our 1/4 range up until now. I think the targets are going to get a little harder to crack in the next few days ATA. Just judging by the ops I've done on countries just getting into our range.


I've been feeling this way for a few days tho, and every day I log in and there are 3-4 countries to choose from to hit. But, fairly soon, you will be correct=)

BobbyATA Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2013, 13:36:35

I just spied a top country (>30k land) that only had 300k spies. Would that raise a red flag for anyone else? I'm not sure how such a country could get spy ops!

AndrewMose Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2013, 13:52:41

It seems the SPY, SPY ALLIANCES, MILITARY SPY ops are almost completely random and there isn't much difference in your success rate if you have better SPAL or worse SPAL then the defender. Which begs the question why I am financing a SPAL that has been over 30 most of this set and still failing 33-50% of my ops with a death of 15k spies each fail.

correction: 15k spies per fail is a worst case scenario, after thinking back most of the time I only lose 6k to 12k.

Edited By: AndrewMose on Apr 3rd 2013, 19:49:06
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LATC Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2013, 19:22:12

Espionage started weeks ago against me =/
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

crest23 Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2013, 19:41:30

Karma for your espionage last set.
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LATC Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2013, 20:31:37

haha well I did it last set cuz ppl were doing it to me.. soo my excuse last set is: everyone else was doing it!
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Are you guys stupid or what?

crest23 Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2013, 22:23:54

Everyone else? There was the IRS guy, gogy (as retals for those that hit him), and then you. I wouldn't call that "everyone else".
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LATC Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2013, 23:39:22

I had a few different ppl stealing tech from me throughout the set. Just cuz not every thief targeted you or not everyone was outed publically doesn't mean those were the only ones stealing tech. World doesn't revolve around you..
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

crest23 Game profile

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Apr 4th 2013, 2:13:11

Sure. That was a very special country you were running there that's why they all targeted you.
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LATC Game profile

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Apr 4th 2013, 3:22:01

...I never said everyone targeted me.. in fact you implied that about your country cuz you claimed the only ppl stealing tech were tax man, gogy, and me cuz those were probably the ones that stole from you.. gosh u rly are an idiot u know that.. stop trying to make ppl look bad, you only embarass yourself.

Edited By: LATC on Apr 4th 2013, 3:25:02
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Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

Magellaan Game profile

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Apr 4th 2013, 3:30:20

Originally posted by AndrewMose:
It seems the SPY, SPY ALLIANCES, MILITARY SPY ops are almost completely random and there isn't much difference in your success rate if you have better SPAL or worse SPAL then the defender. Which begs the question why I am financing a SPAL that has been over 30 most of this set and still failing 33-50% of my ops with a death of 15k spies each fail.

correction: 15k spies per fail is a worst case scenario, after thinking back most of the time I only lose 6k to 12k.


Yea, I had a spal of 40 and now it has dropped to 30 because I've stopped producing spies and it doesn't seem to make significant difference at all..
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Karim Game profile

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Apr 5th 2013, 5:57:01

I am not failing much with a really miserable SPAL this set ;)
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Apr 5th 2013, 12:07:16

For normal spy ops I've always found my SPAL to help a lot.
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PaleMoon Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 6:35:48

I have a high spal and I'm still losing 100k tech each day to ops.

It's frustrating. -.-
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Rob Game profile

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Apr 7th 2013, 5:10:41

The tech market looks like its rebounding a little.

crest23 Game profile

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Apr 7th 2013, 5:16:09

Hopefully food starts it's jump.
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Karim Game profile

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Apr 8th 2013, 18:32:09

Oil jumped already indeed...damn it, i can't grab :(
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Serpentor Game profile

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Apr 8th 2013, 22:50:44

Nobody can.
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blid

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Apr 8th 2013, 23:32:59

Just wait, next set fascists will make 17% less oil in order to increase oil prices. :D

Also a whole lot of other changes that will diminish Primary in order to prop up Alliance. :O
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AndrewMose Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 2:11:32

I try to grab but I can't add the past few days...so it would have been better if I didn't buy that $400 oil :(

LATC Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 2:58:37

Nice, I converted to oiler just in time to sell for $500+.. time to do some big retals..
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

Rob Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 3:09:26

Cheap military has led to high defences, requiring plenty of jets to break. But at these oil prices, i'm actually having to cash quite a few turns just to make a single attack.

I dont know how the commies can afford to grab

h2orich Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 3:15:33

Those commies who didnt bother destroying their rigs while grabbing up could probably still afford to grab. And building a couple 100s of rigs definitely helps now when oil prices are above $400. At least a commie building rigs doesnt affect their income as much as a casher building rigs.

Magellaan Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 4:09:34

As a commie you got to keep your bus/res tech high too imo. My tax income is now 35% of my total income. I don't have any cash flow problems, plenty left to buy more tech with every day.
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Karim Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 5:47:45

Personally i don't have issues affording the oil but i invested a couple of days in tech levels so the increased production covers the increased costs.
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Serpentor Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 8:23:36

Ha, only negative changes to indies next set. Lol

Less land in ghost acres
More costly to build a larger land country
Oil will be crazy fluffed
Casher competition gets a bit stronger

So is it going to be better going building cost now instead of expenses for us big rep and indy grabbers? Probably not, just less land gaining I suppose. This is a huge adjustment.


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Magellaan Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 9:09:23

Ill probably try a techstart and building cost bonus if I play CI again.
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Apr 9th 2013, 14:06:33

Originally posted by Serpentor:
Ha, only negative changes to indies next set. Lol

Less land in ghost acres
More costly to build a larger land country
Oil will be crazy fluffed
Casher competition gets a bit stronger

So is it going to be better going building cost now instead of expenses for us big rep and indy grabbers? Probably not, just less land gaining I suppose. This is a huge adjustment.
All for the sake of that dysfunctional Alliance server. :P

Btw, looks like h2o gave his friend 9000 acres.
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
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Apr 9th 2013, 14:13:14

60,000 land building cost before = 3*60,000 + 1500 = 181,500
60,000 land building cost now = 3*(60,000-1500)^1.05 + 1500 = 305,300.

40,000 land building cost before = 121,500
now = 197,319

20,000 before = 61,500
now = 92,200

10,000 before = 31,500
now = 41,588

5,000 before = 16,500
now = 17,290
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
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Rob Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 15:12:02

So i guess i'll play a 5k techer in primary next set :p

LATC Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 15:51:32

To beat Rob, I will play a 5001 acre techer next set.

Seriously tho, I think primary is a better game than alliance, they should stop trying to cater everything to that server =/
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

OneMansArmy Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 16:25:29

Did I read that explore rates are going up? Wonder what the new cutoffs are and how much extra land we can get by batch exploring at the start.

Building until 4000 acres is cheaper too I think someone mentioned? So some start-up strategies might need to be changed.

Edited By: OneMansArmy on Apr 9th 2013, 16:29:16
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Xinhuan Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 16:25:32

Guys, its fine. It just means the rank 10 finishing NW will be a lot closer to the rank 30 finishing NW, everything gets scaled down, and the competition will be more intense!

Rob Game profile

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Apr 9th 2013, 17:04:56

I'm dont really care about the changes, as everyone will adapt.

The only thing that I absolutely dislike is that all networth records will stay, and all new sets will have lower networths. The reference points will have to start again and it will take a while before some precedence gets set

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Apr 9th 2013, 23:27:14

Originally posted by OneMansArmy:
Did I read that explore rates are going up? Wonder what the new cutoffs are and how much extra land we can get by batch exploring at the start.

Building until 4000 acres is cheaper too I think someone mentioned? So some start-up strategies might need to be changed.
You can still only double your land by exploring so you won't get any more, you can just do it in 5 fewer turns. And afterwards you'll have an explore rate of 27 instead of 24.
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.