it never occurs to any of u guys that this is anything but syncity

the goal of the game is not to see who can click on research the most times

try attacking somebody one time
just once

how about in the nominally non clan servers
giving it only to players who get the kill solo
and giving the player all of the remaining net worth?

u will get even more inter allegiance land farming than u have now
and u will also get more early kills

but on the brighter side
in the express server
theocracies may not win every single set

and of course the definition of a solo kill can be debated
how much time has to elapse between a failed kill shot
and a succesful attempt for it to be considered solo
but that is a detail not a deal killer

interesting ergesh

check his post he said he never attacked anyone

"if i see hobo nuking countries he will go on my list"

check the news and then look at this statement

Fact: hobo had already fired well over a dozen missiles at the time of the post
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"after begging to be left alone"

what LaE delirium is this?
who can fathom the mysteries of these guys psyches?

crna as u know if u have followed express for any of the last three sets is the main LaE enforcer on the express server
i have killed him two of the last three sets
i killed c r o a t i a 3x in one set
does any sane person really think LaE would leave me alone if they thought they could do something to me?
the concept is laughable on its face

did LaE ever leave me alone? look at the record they have trying in their usual inefficient manner to retal for the multiple deaths of cobalt and c r o a t i a and crna

did i promise not to kill cobalt a third time this set ? yes
because i want c r o a t i a's record of three deaths to stand and i dont want some minor LaE flack to tie the record

i want the record to stand with one of LaE's stars
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"suiciding someone"

FACT u can not suicide someone else

i did not suicide i committed cobalticide he died twice in two days
LaE uses the term suicide but they apparently do not know the meaning of the word it is no wonder now3p is baffled
i apologize to now3p for using words he can not fully comprehend but he is not my target audience
these posts are intended for thoughtful articulate readers

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hatred u have "for them on another server"

i want to clear up this misconception
i do not despise LaE for what they have done to FFA
i depise LaE for what they have done and are doing to Express
as evidence i would offer the clear fact that i have been killing LaE on this server long before i joined a clan on FFA
anyone who has followed express knows that to be true

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thx for reading this
any thoughtful responses appreciated

so for example in the express server last set's winner mortcus says he never launched a single attack

neither of the leaders in this set have attacked anyone all set

it is just sell sell sell
hardly a war game more like celbrity apprentice than WWII

great idea

if anyone has any speculation on this question i would sure like to hear it

thx

i can only speak about express because i have been here such a short time

i only came over when swirve closed

but since i have been here netters have completely dominated the express server

in that server endlessly selling troops is the key to victory



and no amount of skill changes that

as to the clans people seem to be ok with clans tactics in all the servers

i can see how a clan game might be effected

what is the rationale in individual games?

i understand that this thread is primarily for netters who think that an ss is affront to the natural order of the game

but still even the most ardent pusher of the research button
and the most prodigious seller of cheap troops and tanks

should object to a strategy of nuking players simply because they use lg as a strategy

for the last two sets hobo and mp3 have been nuking the best players in the game simply to turn the express server into a haven for netters

i have read their justification for doing so
the use of the derisive term suicider for anyone who uses ss

frankly the justification is insufficient

i know most responses to this post will be juvenile drivel
totally off point and replete with name calling
but if u could manage a thoughtful reply i would appreciate it

i thank both administrators for responding

when reviewing the issue of whether "smart attacking" is properly rewarded and predation is an effective NW tool

i would suggest we search for an objective measure

looking at the various servers
how often does a predator win the set?
how often do predators outnumber netters in the top ten?
what is the balance between predators and netters in the server population and which strategy consistently yields higher results?

once we have an objective measure we can answer the question of whether skillful attacking is properly rewarded

i echo Xelah's general premise that the restrictions on spy use are too harsh

and i would like to follow up on his question about what is essentially spy DR

there are tools to track a country's DR from military actions

is there a tool to track a country's spy DR?
is there a formula for calculating success?

and would you consider raising the number of spy turns from fifty to 100?

no other action is so limited
i can ab somebody as long as i have turns etc
but spies are restricted
i agree with Xelah that the restrictions are currently too tight and should be loosened

skill should be rewarded

excellent ideas

land farming ur own countries makes a mockery of the game

oh that is difficult

u would have to ask people to play the server
as a favor to the site and
in the interest of the evolution of the game

is there any way to artificially make the market more vibrant?
u could have a price trend multiplier
for example if oil is selling at $100
someone puts up oil for sale at $90
a difference of 10%
if our trend modifier is 2x
then his oil goes on sale for $80

how about this;
a post game military multiplier

so that immediately after the reset is over
a player's nw is increased or diminished
by the amount of fighting he was involved in

that way a person who fought and clawed would end up higher ranked than someone who merely netted all set long

How about a server in which people's experiments are tried out in a real game?

every reset has different experimental rules

pick a player u know and respect

ask him to set the rules he would love to play by

and run a short set with his rules

ask the players to evaluate the changes

then either pick another player or keep the same player and have him tweak his ideas

it is not surprising that netters would hate the idea

here is a more dramatic suggestion
only add in the nw on the penultimate turn))

i propose in order to encourage battle and add excitement
that some nw be added to the value of a victor in any battle
the amount added to the nw could be dependent upon tons of different variables

why was cobalt whining ?

it is a war game

LaE came to his defense so i dont understand the tears

how many friends working in concert constitute a clan

simple question

ad hominem arguments though attractive to the simple minded do not advance discussions

thanks for your responses

to me anything other than A1 is inappropriate

one of the other threads had a suggestion line on how to improve the game

one suggestion was to lock in names, i.e. once u chose a name for the server that was ur name every reset

i could live with that i would prefer having no names at all

one of the rules of this server is no clans
as clinton would say; define "clan"
so i would like to lay out a few scenarios and have people respond with a quick yes it is or no it is not clan conduct
if we can get serious responses maybe it will help the smart guys who run this server make appropriate adjustments
if u can not respond thoughtfully pls dont respond

A. U notice that a country is a clanmate from another server
1. u send him a request for an alliance
2. when he gets hit u retaliate
3. when he gets hit u send him an offer of aid
4. when u r looking for lg targets u skip him
5. when he hits u u send him a note saying hey its me
6. at reset end u nuke the guy ahead of him

B. U receive a message from a clanmate from another server
1. U explicitly agree to aid each other
2. U solicit one other player from that same clan
3. U solicit two oither players from that same clan
4. U solicit three other players from that same clan
5. U solicit 17 other players from that same clan

C. U recognize a member of an opposing clan
1. U attack soley because of events on the other server
2. U solicit ur friend to attack him
3. U solicit two friends to attack
4. U solict three friends to attack

thanks in advance for any thoughtful responses

notice he did not answer

are there other "friends" acting in concert

other "friends" who make sure their clanmate wins by attacking the leader?

I do not know I have only seen it with LaE names over the last number of sets i have played since swirve closed

to say other people do it too
is no justification

how many "friends" acting in concert ruin this server?

that is the question that needs to be debated if u want to say that seven "friends" are not a clan then i will disagree

all right lets keep it slow for u

when five players with LaE ties act as "friends" on this server is that appropriate?

what is it with me and LaE?

simple i hate clan tactics on individual games

LaE stops doing that

i go silent

maybe what other clans use clan tactics on this server

identify them and let the moderators know who they are

lets clean this server up

this server should be the best game of all

it should be an individual game not a clan fest

if u think there are no tags on this server
u have not been paying attention
LaE is here in force

there should be a way to detect and punish clan activity

i agree that experienced players avoid this server but i think it is because of the clan not because of the suicider

what do u mean wrong forum?

this is the express server

LaE is here in force

just look at the names and watch how the set unfolds

LaE defends its own

why do you say there are no tags on this server?

LaE is out in force every set

u touch an LaE player they come after u

why do u think they use their LaE names?

perfect example this set i kill an LaE player two hours into the set

three hours into the set LaE kills me

that is how this server works

LaE is not just the biggest clan they are the only clan

while i appreciate all the private messages of support i wish some of you would say these things publicly
but i understand why you do not

syn has nothing to do with this

syn loves LaE and only took me in if i promised not to hit LaE

as long as Syn was tagged LaE had nothing to fear from me

Zues stopped me from hitting LaE

as long as Syn survived Zues had me not attack

actually that is a misstatement of suicider logic
so let me state why i did it

i believe our game in all its servers would be substantially better if there were no mega clan

i believe that sentiments like those expressed by billy joe lead to absurdities like 14 land farms and one masster country

i believe that the sense of entitlement created by LaE"s massive size in this server leads LaE members to practice clan tactics in other servers like Express and primary that are nominally individual games

I hate that LaE practices clan tactics in the express server

My hope against hope is that by attacking one of LaE's known players we may be able to stop some of the abuses practiced by that clan

until more players hit LaE they will continue their destructive practices

ok since some of u seem to b4e unable to grasp the signifigance of what happened last night

let's just wait and see if C R O A T I A wins the whole set

those of u not from LaE
consider this

i crippled fourteen landfarms

last set C R O A T I A either won or came close to winning

this set he wont finish in the top ten

so when LaE says i didnt hurt him

consider the source

the reward for hitting 14 different c r o a t i a countries was 5,4 Billion dollars