My Earth Empires Premium credits run out in 10 days. I won't be buying any more with this bullfluff clan GDI in place to let LaF cheaters get free protection from war, and seeing the game turned into a crappy version of farmville. I'll keep an eye on the game waiting for QZ to realize he's been duped by Gerdler, and wait until he removes this feature that completely ruins the game. And I'll remember Mr. Gainsborough's threat to drive SoL off the server.

It's a cover to enable a clan to build at will, and drop clan gdi, and FS.

It says if I declare war I can attack. But I can't even declare war.... what am I missing?

It says if I declare war I can attack. But I can't even declare war.... what am I missing?

It's a cover to enable a clan to build at will, and drop clan gdi, and FS.

If this is working actually the way it's intended, it's not only insanely flawed, but should also kill the player base. Pretty wild.

If it is intended this way, it's at least a wild choice. Idk...

We spend six minutes a day on turns and 12 hours hitting refresh hoping one of the 47 players posted something on the forums

This did kill the player base lol. how many players quit on the coalition side this set? I know of 5 mercs players who hung up their hats but as long as it ain’t laf players quitting who gives a flufffffffff right?

The new meta is espionage. Get your SPAL up, and go HAM.

The game has fallen so far from the original that it is no longer a game I feel like playing. It is a shame all of the absolute greats of this game had to buy other forms of defense and compete against real players vs. farming bots that do not attack back; however, their leaderboard scores will be buried by lower-quality players of the bot era. If anything, can we get a stats board for pre-bot-era players? It isn't fair to them.

It is strange to see a country with 0 spies, 0 troops, 0 turrets, 0 tanks, and 2b cash on hand. This is the new meta because Qz changed the code to make it so. It's partly his game, so it is his right to do.

After some time, I feel the result will be fewer players and more bots. Time will tell. If you enjoy bot farming pve type of gameplay, then this is excellent.

I am also a bit confused; 1a was always touted as the war server – which server is our war server now? It seems they are all single-player!

Or when you and hanlong and co. dont cheat :')

The meta was not all jetter like that that is false.

It isn’t even a conversation comparing the two especially w clan gdi.

Yes it was, before this reset for the past several years it has been all jetter bot farming.

+1 on adding spy ops into clan GDI. This is my first proper set on alliance and I just got half my buildings destroyed. It's really demotivating and just turns the game into a race to cripple first.

War is a big aspect of the game, but it isn't the main aspect. That's why the final rankings are networth and not kills. Clans and countries should have a way of fairly attacking and defending themselves. I do wonder if clan GDI should be less strict on the no attacking at all, and pool military/spies instead - a bit like a massive defensive pact. Like a single attack is a simple country v country, but successive attacks bring in a higher and higher % of the total clan military.

Did this scrub really call out Astro Empires as an alternative?

Was he not around when EE went and played AE? And how that ended? Not toxic?

Atleast he is funny.

All BS aside, the reality of this game and the problems with it are as follows:

for someone that has only been around this game for a few months you seem to have a good grasp on what is wrong and how to fix this game. Having played this game from it's early days, I think the first time i played it did not even have tags for the clans, if i am remembering right. In some ways that was fun as you did not really know how many members a clan had so you might grab some easy land and find yourself dead in a matter of minutes. Yes i long for the glory days of earth but we seem stuck with what we have.

In a game with thousands of people, wars are wars. Politics play an important role, and it's a lot of fun. Alliances change, new blood comes and goes, and it keeps the game fresh, fun, and exciting.

In a game with 47 people, wars are not wars anymore. They are simply two sides being fluffs to each other for eternity. And whichever side happens to have more people (yes, people is the metric here, not skill) wins. And not only do they win, they make the game unplayable and unfun for everyone else.

Clan GDI, I assume, was meant to address this. But Clan GDI also takes away a big portion of the game. You can see that half the players here just want to attack the other half, since they are the bigger/stronger half and it's fun to gang up on others. I don't disagree, I wish I would have been on the larger numbers side in a war, it would probably have been a riot.


But the game we have today isn't conducive to any of that being healthy in any way.


There are two real solutions.

1. Grow the player base.
2. Realize you're all playing a game that is deeply flawed and will never really be anything close to what it was or could be, due to the player size.


As someone who got back into browser games over the last 7 months, and has now experienced different games to compare this to, I can easily say that other games do not have these problems. Astro Empires has an extremely healthy war component to it's game. And even being on the losing side of a war doesn't mean that all hope is lost and there is no point in playing. There are mechanics that exist that make it so that you are able to rebuild and contribute in meaningful ways, even after getting your fleet destroyed or bases occupied.


The game doesn't allow scripts or bots or any of the tools that EE uses. So the game doesn't become setup IRC on your phone and wait for alerts to come in at 3 in the morning. Attacking enemies is more involved than waiting for the warchat leader to pick a target and watching a countdown in IRC, then hitting a button 30 times as fast as you can. And the player base isn't so small that you know your enemies first and last name, the name of their pets, and what they do for a living.

In other words, its way healthier than this community.



All of that said, I like EE. I think EE is a fun game. But the size of the player base isn't conducive to the game being played the way it used to be played. So either the game changes, or the player base changes. Or the game dies even quicker, which at this point, might be a good thing.

The espionage meta continues. C/I producing mass spies is life changing.

Ehhhh.... For the first coupke weeks yes, but as the set presses on, C/I becomes non-viable at high acreage due to expenses. It won't win, period. But then again, anything not a 300k+ FFO has essentially an outside chance at being borderline t10. If the espionage meta on techer bots to get 50th place is what you're playing for, you and I are not the same. Sounds boring af to play that or the one strat that wins.