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Jul 20th 2014, 13:52:00

Last set I was:

36 Tuvok 18 11,921 acres $8,847,241 IG

This set I'm:
13 THE BORG (#21) 18,991 $8,924,911 IG

There's still about 120 turns left. I'm hoping to break 11 mil.
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Jul 20th 2014, 13:54:04

I plan to post specifics once the set is over. Hopefully I can get some feedback on some adjustments.
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Jul 20th 2014, 15:33:54

what does it matter? if anyone gives you feedback, you will just tell them they are wrong, and run your weird ass countries anyways.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 15:37:21

Where's an ignore button when you need one?
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Jul 20th 2014, 15:39:16

for reference, i can get ~15-17 mill NW running an all-x, 0 military, 0 retal country with less than 10K acres, and you are happy with 11mill NW on 19K acres. do yourself a favor, and start listening to other people. you will get a lot beter at this game once you stop telling everyone who has played this game for years that they are wrong. you are the one who is asking the questions. either take the advice, or stop asking.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 15:40:35

As a dictator on Express? I doubt it.
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mrford Game profile

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Jul 20th 2014, 15:42:48

just like you doubt everything i say, and yet you are still running fluffty countries despite asking more questions than anyone i have ever seen.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 15:46:31

Well Mrford. I'm actually doing it in Express. All I see you doing is talking.
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Jul 20th 2014, 15:47:50

The questions are obviously not meant for you to answer, but from players who are doing well in Express.
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Jul 20th 2014, 15:50:47

i have t10s in every server except alliance, got an 11th there, and im not even primarily a netter.

im also not the only person telling you the same things, so you cant use your dislike for me as an excuse to not listen. you just dont want to listen. you want someone to take time out of their day to provide you stastical proofs, then when they do you tell them they are wrong, and that their example doesnt work in your scenrio, because you have this one snapshot that you take out of context and cant comprehend the bigger picture. maybe you dont like me because im a fluff, maybe not, but listen. you will get better. and if you remember your stupidity and learn from it more because i was a jackass, then so be it.

every single thread you have made asking questions you have told someone, other than me, that they are wrong. you are the nub. if you cant understand what they are saying, they arnt wrong, you just arnt thinking right. the best part is you keep on asking questions, even though everyone around here knows you dont ant to hear the answers, you just want to argue math or some fluff.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 15:59:16

Then how come on every board someone is commenting on your attitude? Even mods are reminding you of your out of control temperament. Nobody listens to a hot-head.

Am I entitled to disagree? I'm not ignoring their advice, I'm merely asking more questions, but you translate that as being defiant. Insults and belittlement doesn't help relay your message better. Reminding me how inexperienced I am to this game is relative. I'm experienced compared to a new player, but I'm new to an old player.

I experiment. I post my findings and I look for discussions to generate from them so I can learn from it.

Edited By: Celphi on Jul 20th 2014, 16:02:48
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Jul 20th 2014, 16:00:12

You say you're top 10 every server, OK, which one is you on express last set?
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Jul 20th 2014, 16:01:49

I'll even make a list for you. Which one is you?

1 DeathFromAbove 5 15,452 acres $30,390,396 HG 1967
2 Valar Morghulis 64 20,684 acres $29,944,563 CG 1448
3 FTL 118 20,402 acres $25,607,931 RG 1255
4 Struggle Street 103 13,058 acres $25,145,373 DG 1926
5 I R Deezy multiculturalism sucks 17 16,428 acres $24,878,947 RG 1514
6 Enterprise NX01 32 18,686 acres $24,427,319 RG 1307
7 Toyota Celica 72 25,512 acres $23,699,264 CG 929
8 Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle 66 15,111 acres $20,029,121 CG 1325
9 Melon 100 16,218 acres $18,667,395 RG 1151
10 Asterix 90 10,954 acres $18,594,104 RG 1697
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Jul 20th 2014, 16:03:45

every server, not every set. learn the difference
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 16:07:39

So you're bragging that you've made t10 on every server out of the 10 years you've been on this game?
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Jul 20th 2014, 16:10:30

It wasn't a bragging statment. It was a credential statment with conditional information added. I even said I suck at netting.

What is going on in that head of yours.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 16:20:03

don't mind ford he's just mad his truck is always broke down.

Also quit running a dict they suck lol but congrats it is a nice one :-)

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Jul 20th 2014, 16:22:08

Thnx @ Deezy
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Jul 20th 2014, 16:24:38

5 I R Deezy multiculturalism sucks 17 16,428 acres $24,878,947 RG 1514

This is where I want to be.
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mrford Game profile

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Jul 20th 2014, 16:35:11

Well atleast deezyboy supports you. He needs to offset all that anti-jew bullfluff he is spewing in the other thread somehow.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 16:43:05

Hahahaha

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Jul 20th 2014, 16:52:51

I have only been playing like a couple months and I have no idea how some people get 30m networth lol.

Was ~150 turns left too early to buy cheap military? My expenses went from -600k to -2m but allowed me to retal someone for ~3kA

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Jul 20th 2014, 17:04:56

Yeah- 30 million net is sick. I want to somehow get a dictator to top 10.
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Jul 20th 2014, 17:05:11

Nice land grab- btw.
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Jul 20th 2014, 17:15:39

you have to stock, and then calculate your destock. destocking off the PM is generally best if you have military tech, and the unit replenishment rate is as follows

3 troops
2.5 jets
2.5 turrets
1 tank

per turn, per acre. so if someone has 10K acres, their PM gains 30,000 troops, 25000 jets and turrets, and 10K tanks every time a turn is given, so every 4 minutes. you can use this formula to find out how much cash you can spend in x amount of time left in the set.

there is also PM unit decay with the tick of every turn, so when you are destocking make sure the units you are buying are empty every turn. most people log out for a day or so to let their PM build up, so they can make a large initial purchase with their stock, and then calc the PM regen rate and how much cash they can spend on their PM the rest of the set

you can see where timing and acurate calculations come into play, and why more land is beneficial, it means your private market replenishes faster.


that is some basics on how to calc your destock. factors including

how much stock you have
how much land you have
how many turns are left in the set
what your private market prices are (dependant on building makeup, tech %, and government type)
and your overall destock plans. (straight destock, early destock with reselling, etc)


as you can see, the game is a bit more complicated than some make it out to be. and wether im an ass or not, i know what the fluff im talking about, generally. every single country, turn, and set are different. thee are general principals that govern this game, but one answer will not always be corect. it is highly situational. this is where Celphi is having problems.

Edited By: mrford on Jul 20th 2014, 17:18:45
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 17:43:53

Should probably add in unit NW

Troop .5
Jet .6
Turret .6
Tank 2
Tech 2

So in the PM, no matter your tech or whatever, best NW/$ is always in this order

Troop
Tank
Jet
Turret

Period. Some people just destock to troops and tanks, others stock for an extra couple hundred turns and destock through all of them, trading inefficiency for more stock.

It is however you want to play and calc it.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Kizami Game profile

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Jul 20th 2014, 20:24:50

I'm assuming you max military tech before you do this?

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Jul 20th 2014, 20:27:44

Maxing mil tech is always a good thing for destocking. Some go so far as to switch governments to demo for the tech bonus and market bonus for reselling. I don't know how popular a TMBR is on this server but it requires converting buildings as well.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 20:42:58

Obviously the general goal is to get the most stock possible while leaving time to exchange that stock for the best NW/$ ratio. However you think the best way to do that.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 20:49:43

How do you think techers stock and made a last minute jump Mrford?

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Jul 20th 2014, 20:56:18

just stfu
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Jul 20th 2014, 21:32:27

Originally posted by iyad:
How do you think techers stock and made a last minute jump Mrford?


techers sell tech all set, and buy fod from the profit. at the end of the set they sell all that food, and buy off their private market?

some might switch to demo, if they arnt demo already

some might convert their labs to military bases half way through the set and resell troops they buy for $90 for $130

the question needs to be more specific.



Originally posted by Syko_Killa:
just stfu


you know, i was trying for the life of me the other day to remember your nick when i was compiling a list of the mentally challenged posters that dislike me, and i couldnt. thanks for jogging my memory!
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 21:47:58

Mentally challenged in some areas, but brilliant in others;) np! Just to set the record straight you might want to put me on the list of people that hate you and not the dislike list. "Dislike" is so mediocre, and an understatement of how people really feel about you. You are educated, but you lack any common sense, but since common sense isn't very common at all, I suppose you lack an uncommon sense. Your the type of fool who thinks he knows it all and you use an internet game and google just to prove.... So i'm curious, how does a fluffy sumfluff like you have so much time to post on this game when you have a family and full time job. .v . .go home already dude. For a guy who has such a life, you sure do spend alot of time on these boards doing your troll patrol job as well. . . it's almost like a second job for you...well maybe not a job, more like a pleasure.


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Jul 20th 2014, 22:46:55

It is almost as if I can read and post from my phone while watching my kids or smoking ribs or fishing or in a meeting. Weird huh? You are really salty. Might wanna dilute all them salty feelings, it is clouding that already poor judgment.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 23:03:50

Sounds like you have a short attention span, can't stay focused on one thing at a time, wow...this game has really taken control of your life, you just have to know what's going on in this game, while your mind is supposed to be in a meeting or when your supposed to be a dad. You just can't keep your eyes off the Game Boards, Sounds like you have your priorities a little mixed up right now huh? Need some ritalin?

Edited By: Syko_Killa on Jul 20th 2014, 23:10:01
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Jul 20th 2014, 23:17:23

your affinity for assumptions about me are as amusing as they are incorrect, but you are free to view me however you want, it effects me none.

this is the only game i play. these are the only forums i actively post on (i am a member of a carolina panthers and charlotte hornets board, but i usually only read it when im taking a dump, i raerly ever post). i dont have facebook, instagram, twitter, any of that fluff. so yeah, whenever i have a down minute, or check my email, ill hop over here and argue with the tards, or follow up on a thread i posted on hours before. it is how i choose to internet. it is entertainment. if you dont like it, you are free to ignore me. however, you keep responding, and comming out of nowhere to make comments towards or about me, so what are you complaining about?
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Jul 20th 2014, 23:51:21

THE BORG (#21)
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Rank: 58
Networth: 5,294,544
Land: 10177

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Jul 21st 2014, 0:09:02

Didn't you get killed last set Celphi?

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Jul 21st 2014, 0:15:06

Yeah. BYOB who probably could have finished #1 decided to flatten me instead because of RoR. There's always next set for revenge. :)
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Jul 21st 2014, 0:19:07

He stocked 500k spies and bought 900k+ tanks to do it. (I've yet to see anyone with 500k+ spies on xpress)
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Jul 21st 2014, 0:56:48

Celphie...you can check my past countries but I keep close to 500k spies each round in express.

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Jul 21st 2014, 1:17:34

darn it.. got 11 YET AGAIN.. I am no top 10 material. :/

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Jul 21st 2014, 2:04:03

silentwolf, you should join the Monsters.

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Jul 21st 2014, 2:05:20

Originally posted by ebert00:
Celphie...you can check my past countries but I keep close to 500k spies each round in express.


When is the best time to stock up on spies? I know I stole a ton of money from you with 200k spies earlier in the set. Also, is it better to sell the spies during the non-combat time (last two hrs of set)?


Thanks in advance.
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Jul 21st 2014, 4:10:24

Celphi, if you're intention is to get a top 10 country like you've stated.

You'll *likely* never do it as a Dict, especially with your current strategy. I know you're not a fan of mrford or his attitude but he happens to be right about the strategy not working.

I'd suggest focusing less on that land total, and more about optimization in other aspects of the game. It's quite easy to get ~20m with an all-explore Rep Casher these days. It would be much less work too.

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Jul 21st 2014, 8:45:24

I got just over 20m on my farmer and I destocked terribly (never done it before, had only ~30k military tech and bought military from public too early).

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Jul 21st 2014, 11:43:47

Ford, you're a fluff, you do nothing but rip on other people. I have never seen you do anything of note, other than run your mouth.

In fact, that's about the only thing you can do, I suspect, run your mouth.

I picture a guy in his PJ's who is disillusioned with his pathetic life sitting in his family room, on his comoputer just looking for somebody who he can rip on, just so he can feel better about the fluffty life he's built for himself.

Why don't you try to offer something positive once in a while? Oh, that's right, that would illustrate how bad your life actually is, my bad.

All you can do is run around and accuse people of wearing tin-foil hats, which joke had run it's course years ago, by the way.
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Jul 21st 2014, 11:52:22

ford make plenty of positive posts, as for running his mouth, you cant say much in that regard now can you
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Jul 21st 2014, 13:36:45

Originally posted by Warster:
ford make plenty of positive posts, as for running his mouth, you cant say much in that regard now can you


I agree, I have learned a lot from ford's posts.

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Jul 21st 2014, 15:18:00

Originally posted by Kingme:
Celphi, if you're intention is to get a top 10 country like you've stated.

You'll *likely* never do it as a Dict, especially with your current strategy. I know you're not a fan of mrford or his attitude but he happens to be right about the strategy not working.

I'd suggest focusing less on that land total, and more about optimization in other aspects of the game. It's quite easy to get ~20m with an all-explore Rep Casher these days. It would be much less work too.



Thanks for the feedback. I do want to make top 10, but as a dictator. To me, it wouldn't seem that gratifying to make top 10 as a R/D/H. I'm certainly not taking away that achievement. It's just my goal. I know primary is vastly different from express, but I noticed a player name Oldman made #1 as a dictator farmer. Any ideas how he did it?

I will take your advice on focusing on developing a smaller amount of land. I get the consensus that my tech levels are way too low (and should be maximized) before expanding my land. I will focus on that. Thanks again.
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