Round 73 Talk - Earth Empires Forum

Tmac

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Feb 8th 2022, 15:32:17

Rigs seem nice since no tech is required. Non-fascists only get 2 barrels per rig, but at these prices that's solid. The fascists should build more rigs though which would suck for you if you just built your own. They could be making close to $1000 per building. Of course you can't go too crazy because you'll just crash the market and they're pretty useless late unless someone wants them to burn on their pm.

Also a reminder that % of land built as labs or ent zones matters for your tpt and pci.

Gerdler

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Feb 8th 2022, 17:25:11

These are the active fascists in the game, they should really build some rigs, for their own good and for the good of everyone else. So if you know them please tell them and if you are one of them, please do some rigs!

rank		country			#	land		networth	special
23		Ostrogoths		16	12,147 acres	$6,661,659	FG
24		Minsc and Boo		43	12,170 acres	$6,638,742	FG
32		redball express		26	8,270 acres	$5,494,314	FG
51		Gunnerville		82	7,272 acres	$2,316,047	FG
53		WarAUSwa		65	4,040 acres	$2,065,989	FG
55		Friendly Platypuss	27	6,685 acres	$1,891,172	FG
59		JoshAllenismydaddy	104	4,586 acres	$1,683,388	FG
63		AFTER TEE		39	6,367 acres	$1,532,823	FG

TidyTerry

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Feb 8th 2022, 17:38:28

Originally posted by Gerdler:

$60 is about as high as bushels should ever go on primary since Commies will benefit from gettng farms for own use and ag tech to 200% or so if it goes any higher.

What rationally should happen is that in order to avoid that commie buy the Agri tech to higher prices and build out their food production, both of which are bad for all farmers, is that farmers avoid the price going that high.

Same principle as when OPEC liked to control the world market price of oil so that it wasnt worth it to massively build out shale oil/oil sands in Canada and other marginal oil sources that would hamper OPECs long term earnings.

I like that you mentioned OPEC

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 8th 2022, 18:11:29

[quote poster=Gerdler; 50649; 989816]These are the active fascists in the game, they should really build some rigs, for their own good and for the good of everyone else. So if you know them please tell them and if you are one of them, please do some rigs!

rank		country			#	land		networth	special
23		Ostrogoths		16	12,147 acres	$6,661,659	FG
24		Minsc and Boo		43	12,170 acres	$6,638,742	FG
32		redball express		26	8,270 acres	$5,494,314	FG
51		Gunnerville		82	7,272 acres	$2,316,047	FG
53		WarAUSwa		65	4,040 acres	$2,065,989	FG
55		Friendly Platypuss	27	6,685 acres	$1,891,172	FG
59		JoshAllenismydaddy	104	4,586 acres	$1,683,388	FG
63		AFTER TEE		39	6,367 acres	$1,532,823	FG

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TwoPodRay

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Feb 8th 2022, 19:29:08

The thing is, unless if you are a Fascist on top of the food chain, you are essentially supplying the means to your own demise! Definitely can't add any rigs to my set up now, but hoping to see more oil soon.

Rocky79

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Feb 8th 2022, 19:44:48

Yeah the food market sure also slows right down when there is no oil, as do the military markets I would guess

Maybe dictator wasn't the right choice for farmer and fascist farm/oil is the way to go next time I try a farmer

Rocky79

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Feb 8th 2022, 21:41:27

Private market oil should be a thing also

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 8th 2022, 21:51:26

We don't have a dedicated FFO no? Maybe I could start doing that next set but I'll need a bit of guidance from Gerd or another person that knows how to play it, I'm willing to fill that slot 😉

Rocky79

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Feb 8th 2022, 22:52:36

Yeah I think there are a few of us willing to fill that slot

I'm enjoying farming myself

Gerdler

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Feb 8th 2022, 23:22:21

I think Farmer is less forgiving in the start if you dont tech start. as compared to indy or casher that is. because food prices are low early on the farmer struggles real bad in the beginning with getting enough NW not to be farmed while still purchasing enough tech to not be even poorer.

I hate doing tech starts because I dont like depending on 3 other people who I dont know if they will rip me off by teching 50 turns at once in an area I just have 1 turn of tech in. But I feel the tech start for a farmer is much less costly than it is for a casher or an indy, since the farmer will have such poor income without a tech start that it will be forced to compensate with a lower bpt start or take huge risks and probably get hit a bunch.
Indy doesnt have this problem at all, and casher can work around it more easily with its huge instant income.

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 8th 2022, 23:53:44

Originally posted by Gerdler:

My best Demo-Farmer had close to 200k AG tech before I started grabbing, mil, mil strat and weapons just above 100k on 80bpt, back then the player pool was much larger and top 10 player base didn't really have the need to farm people lagging behind the pace, the majority of top guys did tech starts though so it wasn't as rough as it is now a days to extend tech phase.

Rocky79

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Feb 9th 2022, 0:56:15

Yeah my next farmer will be much different than my first

It was a huge struggle to get enough networth to avoid becoming a land farm as a dictator farmer without a tech start and with 90 buildings per turn early, that's for sure

Kryptic

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Feb 9th 2022, 11:49:57

$1100 barrels of oil....Yeesh.

Rocky79

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Feb 9th 2022, 13:54:42

Originally posted by Kryptic:

$1100 barrels of oil....Yeesh.

I build 1,500 rigs today for myself, I'll likely get to 2,500 or 3,000 and that should be enough for a while so I can sustain my own landgrabs without relying on the market too much

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 9th 2022, 19:01:42

Logged in with good timing, 150k barrels under $500 lol

Edited By: KoHeartsGPA on Feb 9th 2022, 19:25:00

Rocky79

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Feb 9th 2022, 19:23:36

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

Logged in with good timing, 150k barrels under $400 lol

Those barrels were $488

I bet when you catch a 10 pound fish you tell people it was 15 :P

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 9th 2022, 19:24:32

Originally posted by Rocky79:

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

Logged in with good timing, 150k barrels under $400 lol

Those barrels were $488

I bet when you catch a 10 pound fish you tell people it was 15 :P

fluff, typo, sorry, I meant under 500 lol, I don't fish!

Rocky79

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Feb 9th 2022, 19:41:20

lol, I'm just poking some fun

Enjoy those premium barrels, almost as expensive as the prices in Joey B's USA

momo

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Feb 9th 2022, 23:32:33

Originally posted by Rocky79:

lol, I'm just poking some fun

Enjoy those premium barrels, almost as expensive as the prices in Joey B's USA

Let's go Brandon!!!

Cumorah

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Feb 11th 2022, 3:07:59

Originally posted by momo:

Originally posted by Rocky79:

lol, I'm just poking some fun

Enjoy those premium barrels, almost as expensive as the prices in Joey B's USA

Let's go Brandon!!!

I drill for my own oil. Energy independent this set.

LightBringer

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Feb 11th 2022, 8:46:49

Originally posted by TwoPodRay:

Aren't we all doing that bar cashers? Commies are supplying the jet that will be used to hit them, Techers are supplying the Weapons tech that will assist in breaking them, Farmers are supplying the food that will be used to run turns to hit them. It's the nature of the game lol.

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Gerdler

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Feb 11th 2022, 11:58:33

I also don't see how its possible to sell oil at 400 and not be shooting up the ranks. That means you make more than the techers per turn and acre but you dont even have to spend your turns a specific way, as you make that while building/attacking/exploring/spying/cashing/selling/recalling etc :)

I think if you are thinking more about avoiding to sell what can be used against you, rather than what makes you most money, you will be farmed by someone who doesn't think that way, because he will inevitably be doing better than you. :)

Suicidal

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Feb 11th 2022, 12:49:04

You woke guys better get in line or be cancelled for not playing a game by netter rules.

LightBringer

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Feb 11th 2022, 19:57:17

Originally posted by Suicidal:

You woke guys better get in line or be cancelled for not playing a game by netter rules.

I didn’t realise that selling jets as a commie, tech as a techer, or bushels as a farmer was ‘playing a game by netters rules’. Pray tell, is there another way to play those strats?

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g0nz0

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Feb 11th 2022, 20:17:35

Originally posted by LightBringer:

Originally posted by Suicidal:

You woke guys better get in line or be cancelled for not playing a game by netter rules.

I didn’t realise that selling jets as a commie, tech as a techer, or bushels as a farmer was ‘playing a game by netters rules’. Pray tell, is there another way to play those strats?

You are technical and measured destock to achieve maximum NW.
or
You walk your destock boots all over these fluffes, carve out a million acres. Tears of rage on the forum. fluff em that was awesome.

Suicidal

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Feb 11th 2022, 23:54:12

Colusion

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 12th 2022, 1:12:09

Collusion, n00b

LightBringer

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Feb 12th 2022, 5:15:07

Originally posted by Suicidal:

Colusion

Are you saying we should be colluding rather then netting? You know that's against the rules....

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Rocky79

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Feb 12th 2022, 8:30:49

If more people actually knew how to play the game you wouldn't have a group called "netters"

Tmac

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Feb 12th 2022, 15:10:49

It's like calling someone in sports a scorer, lol.

LightBringer

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Feb 14th 2022, 1:44:00

Originally posted by Tmac:

It's like calling someone in sports a scorer, lol.

You’re not supposed to score in sports! Didn’t you know that? You’re supposed to just tackle each other and move the ball around aimlessly.

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Cumorah

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Feb 14th 2022, 11:55:30

Originally posted by LightBringer:

Originally posted by Tmac:

It's like calling someone in sports a scorer, lol.

You’re not supposed to score in sports! Didn’t you know that? You’re supposed to just tackle each other and move the ball around aimlessly.

Even when the parents pretend to stop keeping score, they still know who won and so do the children. So it’s actually a fruitless endeavour. It’s good to win and good to lose.

Btw, anyone still buying oil? I have a surplus.

Tmac

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Feb 14th 2022, 13:53:30

The fascists are letting the commies control the oil market, lmao.

LightBringer

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Feb 14th 2022, 14:38:11

Originally posted by Cumorah:

Originally posted by LightBringer:

Originally posted by Tmac:

It's like calling someone in sports a scorer, lol.

You’re not supposed to score in sports! Didn’t you know that? You’re supposed to just tackle each other and move the ball around aimlessly.

So sell it for a reasonable price!

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KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 14th 2022, 17:44:36

I'm almost at stocking phase, not sure if I'll hit 30k acres, we'll see...

Originally posted by Tmac:

The fascists are letting the commies control the oil market, lmao.

I mean....maybe they cut a deal 🤷‍♂️

Cumorah

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Feb 14th 2022, 20:50:00

Originally posted by LightBringer:

Originally posted by Cumorah:

Originally posted by LightBringer:

Originally posted by Tmac:

It's like calling someone in sports a scorer, lol.

You’re not supposed to score in sports! Didn’t you know that? You’re supposed to just tackle each other and move the ball around aimlessly.

So sell it for a reasonable price!

Some cheap oil on the way to a lucky shopper in the next few hours.

Cumorah

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Feb 14th 2022, 23:07:09

Already looking a head to the next set (or two), I am going to be out. I’m not sure where Serp has gone either, so there’s room for some new commies.

Keep an eye out for the $20 oil I’ve sent to market (and some for $100). It’s not much at $20, just a tease, but I may change strat shortly and dump a lot more oil at a better price as a parting gift.

I am thinking in the last 10 days of this set of starting a war with the country that made the dumbest comment on the discussion board - just to keep life interesting. :-)

Cheers.

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 15th 2022, 1:42:08

LOL, missed the teaser oil if in fact even did get to the market, I'm not sure if there's an autobuy for non tech goods.....is there? I know there was talks about it like a decade ago when people got caught transferring goods to boost someone to the top, it happened in xpress if I recall correctly....

Cumorah

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Feb 15th 2022, 5:26:24

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

You can see on eestats (market) someone got the $20 oil today. Happy days.

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 15th 2022, 5:49:06

Wasn't me lol GG

LightBringer

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Feb 15th 2022, 10:55:25

It wasn't me either. That's grossly unfair! We're supposed to be buddies Cumorah.

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Tmac

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Feb 15th 2022, 13:24:24

Take care Cumorah. Don't forget to come back!

I had some SOs up, but I had 2 small amounts at $350 come in around then and put me to the back of the line, lol.

DeLpHiNuS

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Feb 15th 2022, 13:34:50

Take care cumorah.. i can fill up the missing slot meantime till u return

TidyTerry

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Feb 18th 2022, 9:44:35

What is y'all's fave salad?

Gerdler

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Feb 18th 2022, 13:58:41

Here is a free tip for ya'll:

If you get hostile ops on you and you dont know who they are comming from, assuming you are in GDI, you can check who is sending them by seeing who broke GDI on you, remember 2 hostile acts break GDI(one way). So what you do is you try and GS people that have not hit you over the course of the round.

So you can try one number say #9, put in 1 troop, Guerilla strike, prepare attack. GDI will stop you right there if its not this person. if you can GS him it means he broke GDI on you. You dont actually have to GS him to know this. All you have to do is see if the prepare attack screen pops up or if it gives the GDI-error message. Happy hunting!

DeLpHiNuS

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Feb 18th 2022, 14:46:57

Ahhh fail a retal which hurts :( can't seem to understand why.. there's no change in the attacking formula right? Say defence points is A points.. then assume defence ally give the max boost (which means max contribution of A x 110%).. so formula is A x (weapon %) x 1.1 x (bonus) + ally boost.. and I oversend 7% of this amount

Gerdler

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Feb 18th 2022, 15:00:35

I always count the 10% pang and def bonus after everything else. Pang I know should be counted after. but the def bonus Im not sure, so Im conservative which means I cant fail because of it.

So (Raw_def*weaps+Raw_ally_contribution)*pang*bonus

DeLpHiNuS

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Feb 18th 2022, 15:16:54

Originally posted by Gerdler:

I would be getting the same outcome as ur formula.. I guess its the luck factor here? I don't usually fail hits and I would be quite pissed if it ends up being luck that makes me fail the hit

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 18th 2022, 15:29:27

That's frustrating Delphi, maybe one of his allies bought up D between your op and hit 🤷‍♂️

Gerdler

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Feb 18th 2022, 16:08:50

Originally posted by DeLpHiNuS:

Originally posted by Gerdler:

I would be getting the same outcome as ur formula.. I guess its the luck factor here? I don't usually fail hits and I would be quite pissed if it ends up being luck that makes me fail the hit

No you wouldn't. Even if target had no def bonus you still oversent only 7% when your general states clearly that you should oversend by around 10%:

"Account for random chance!
All attacks have some element of chance. Our generals calculate that if we send more than 110% of the defender's power our attacks will be successful more than 99% of the time"