Originally
posted by
aponic:
I became aware that many viewed SOF as having bullied them in the past
My goal was to rebuild relations and to create a fun December reset for the membership.
Since MD told me that they would be netting, I approached SOL about a friendly war. Makinso told me that he was not interested in a friendly war
I told Maki that SOF needed a war to recover from the previous set because SOF membership would not rebound as well netting for an entire set.
Obviously SOL did not want to be pushed into warring SOF just because it was good for SOF but I did my best to convey up front SOF's agenda as I moved forward with what I felt was best for my alliance.
I hope you don't mind me editing the quote, ie. I redacted it, but I hope what I say below illustrates as to why I redacted it like I did.
Let's start with rebuild relations, and have a fun reset. This is the backbone of your thinking is it not?
First you state that SoF has bullied others in the past, or that others have that perception.
Then you go and try to find a war, and nobody is on board.
I wonder if we are seeing only one half of the picture - you ask MD, they say they are netting, you ask SOL, they say they are netting. Then you try to force war with SoL.
Did you not try the same with MD? Why not? Or did you?
I know you are friends with LaF - but as they are of similar size.. did you ask them for a friendly war? It would be a good match up. Something new for LaF (not mopping up 20 man clans on your behalf for a change, and actually tested) and if you can't have a friendly war between friends.. how is it friendly? Did you ask them? I understand if you didn't push them, you are friends after all. But did you ask them? You should have.
Not that I'm insinuating LaF would have fought, but if you want a friendly war you need to ask around, and not just ask your enemies.
What I mean is that I think there's a background story here that might give this SoF/SoL/Makinso thrashtalk fest a bit more light.. but I digress.
Back to the point, so you are trying to find a war, and nobody is on board. So by forcing a war, you commit the sin of bullying (forcing others to do something they dont like is called bullying isn't it?)
Now your argument is basically that you must bully as SoF membership would not rebound as well netting.
SoF - end of reset numbers:
round 21: war vs SOLBBQ : 86
round 22: "netting", war vs LCN,DK, Sodawater, ICN? : 91
round 23: war vs SOL, Monsters, Evo?: 72
round 24: war vs MD,SOL: 53
current round, now: war vs MD,SOL : 68
MD
round 21: 73
round 22: 72
round 23: 66
round 24: 55
current round: 57
SOL
round 21: 47
round 22: 59
round 23: 60
round 24: 55
current round: 66
End of reset number yes, and yes you all peaked higher and.. end of the day, those are the numbers enshrined in the game's history. This year long war has not exactly been good for any of you. Why not try netting?
You assume that it would be bad for you, would it really?
Christmas reset guys! We're gonna net, if you want to skip a reset that's cool, see you in the February reset!
I do not want to tell people how to run their alliances, you guys do what you guys do and whatnot.
But you might want to think for a moment, is this going well? Does the same story, or war, in iteration number 7 or whatever it is we are in, motivate members anymore? Would we all be better off, if you took breath for a reset and worked on the fundamentals so that next reset you'd be back bigger and stronger - all 3 of you?
What if you took this reset to work on those relations and decide that LCN,SoL,MD is enough - done that for a year, let's try to find a new paradigm?
Originally
posted by
aponic:
I would also like to note that the SOF block of a reset ago no longer exists. There is one block left in the game and that is SOL, MD, and LCN.
LCN hitting Rival resulted in all three alliances going to war -- but that is really semantics.
As I work with more alliances in the future, and certainly SOL, MD, and LCN, I hope that we can all try and have a little more fun and cut out a bit of the fluff.
Not to be completely critical, at only you and SoF - I agree with you here.
Alea iacta est - Servant knew that he was crossing the Rubikon by hitting Rival. For a 1:1 I agree with his reasons and reasoning - but that did seal the fate of this reset. If Rival helps you out every reset you must at times help them out. Anything else is just posturing.
This year long saga is like the Bold and the Beautiful.
Ridge goes after Brooke then Taylor and they have kids and greatgrandkids and they still switch between each other every season and.. WTF??
All of you are being dumb, you are all equally to blame. Now enjoy your war.